Thursday, October 24, 2013

Wilco TBM850 update!

FSX/P3D. Yes indeed this aircraft quite delayed and Wilco has updated the product page to reflect the delayed release is expected this month. To hold us over, they have released a preview video of the aircraft boasting many eyecandy features. Whereas the eyecandy is lovely, on a visual scale, it's nothing at all compared to the Carenado variant. With this said though, there are performance issues with the Carenado model and when you pair this with the limited functionality of the Garmin G1000 avionics unit, the Wilco model may have a fighting chance. But my last few purchases from Wilco have been horribly disappointing including their painful customer service. Needless to say, I am hopeful for their TBM850, but strongly guarded. Have a look!

This is where I now sit back with the popcorn and watch other news sites jump in on the news...

Among all the features included, I imagine all people really care about are the systems so I included them below:

Programmed specifically for this Wilco TBM, the panels include fully functional MFD and PFD units which not only operate realistically but have Weather Radar and traffic avoidance systems built in.  The big central Garmin 1000 unit is controlled by a fully functional, specially programmed control unit, just like the real aircraft!PANEL FEATURES
. All-glass integrated flight deck with a Garmin G1000 avionics suite
. Two fully-featured 10.4” TFT LCD Primary Flight Display (PFD)
. Both PFD (Primary Flight Display) operates independantly as in the real TBM850, to display more information at one time across the panel
. Multiple 2D pop up windows with glideslope, ILS, Autopilot NAV/COM, ADF and TRANSPONDER integration.
. A 15’’ TFT LCD Multi-Function Display (MFD) which has:
  • Fully automated LNAV and VNAV capability down to 250 decision height for LPV approaches (localiser guidance)
  • WAAS/LPV approach capable
  • Two moving map displays (orientation)
  • Terrain avoidance system TAS
  • Traffic Avoidance TCAS
  • Flight Plan input
  • EICAS  Engine and systems display (TRQ, Prop RPM, NG%, ITT, Oil Pressure and Temperature)
  • Fuel management display
. All soft-touch buttons are 3D modelled and coded for complete realism
. 3D modelled exact replica of the Garmin display control unit (DCU) fully integrated and  interactive with the central Garmin display.
. Cabin Pressurization display
. Battery, Generator and Bus displays
. ETM (Engine Trend Monitoring)
. Flaps, Elevator, Rudder and Ailerons trims indicators
. NAV/COM radios, ADF, Transponder and autopilot functions
. Normal and Emergency Checklists on screen
. Chart view
A complete GARMIN1000 operator’s manual is included, written in a style to make mastering the systems simple and enjoyable. 
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Unknown said...

Thanks but no thanks.

Unknown said...

I have to say that this actually looks quite promising, especially with full LNAV, VNAV and LPV approach capability.

I would far rather have hardcore systems and less eyecandy, than the usual eyecandy only Carenado type aircraft.

The engine sound in the video seems pretty good and I was quite startled by the off-axis appearance of the engine from above in the video at 01:48.

I can only hope that Wilco have learned their lesson and are back on track to deliver a Level-D type quality GA experience.

Airspeed said...

I agree, time to keep an open mind. The proof will be in the pudding, when it's released.

wideloadwhitford said...

Remember this is Wilco, it was all juicy and sweet in their description of the CRJ NextGen but we all know how that turned out to be..

SF said...

Good marketing

Let's wait and see

Todd said...

I have my own personal reservations about Wilco products like most everyone else, but I have to say the video has me intrigued. The visual model looks pretty darn good to me (minus the "crooked" prop hub as noted by another commenter above, but I have to imagine this will get corrected). The cockpit textures are also very nice. Honestly, though, it's the functional G1000 that has me really interested, as well as the fact it is compatible with P3D. This just might be - and let's hope it is - Wilco seizing on an opportunity to be back in good graces with the sim community.

Todd said...

Just watched the video again and noticed some nice details I missed the first go around. The wing vibration was pretty cool, and the checklist on the G1000 is really nice.

Jerome Zimmermann said...

The off-axis appearance or "crooked" prop hub is called a thrust angle. I can remember mounting the engine of my RC planes at an angle too, so this seems perfectly normal.

I guess we don't often view planes in FSX from a perfect top-down angle, and I'm pretty sure that Wilco purposely wanted to show this in the video.

I agree that the TBM 850 really does look very interesting, spec. wise and visually too, the most promising aircraft I've seen from Wilco in a long time :-)

Todd said...

Jerome, I have never heard of an offset prop (or thrust angle) used in the manufacture of any real world aircraft, but your perspective is interesting and appreciated. If it is real, I wonder if that thrust angle is only used in the mounting of single engine turboprop engines, which are much lighter and powerful than piston engines.

CGaft said...

So will the G1000 be 100% functional, as to the real thing?

Unknown said...

Actually it's used on almost all prop driven aircraft including C172s and such, it's just not very pronounced such as on the TBM850. The offset is used to counter left hand yawing tendencies during the take-off and during cruise. Since a turbine engine on such a small airframe can create large amounts of asymmetric thrust due to P-factor, torque and slipstream, it is required to create a large offset thrust angle on the engine axis to the aircrafts longitudinal axis to ensure the aircraft performs well. Failure to do this could result in a aircraft that is uncontrollable during high power settings and low speed, or a drag penalty during cruise due to rudder being trimmed. In fact most single engine propeller driven aircraft have the vertical stabilizer offset to remain straight in the cruise profile so no rudder input is required which would increase drag and decrease performance. Aircraft that have large variance in the cruise profile may skip this process and just provide rudder trim, some use a combination Any prop driven single engine aircraft you find with the vertical stabilizer perfectly in line with the longitudinal axis of the aircraft could actually be considered an error!
The offset you see, is in fact on the TBM850 in real life as it is on the Wilco product, and is also on the Carenado product as well. This is not an error.

This concludes the lesson of the day.

Todd said...

Makes complete sense. I never knew engines were mounted like that. You learn something new every day. Kudos to Wilco for focusing on the details.

Todd said...

I thank both Jerome and Thad for correcting our criticism of the "crooked prop." I suppose we all could gave read the list of Exterior features on the TBM850 product page. On that list, in bold, is "Correct prop/engine thrust offset." My apologies to Wilco.

Todd said...

And..... it's November. Does any project meet a deadline in the flight sim world? ; )

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