Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Video - Orbx FTX Global Over Phoenix

FSX/P3D. John Venema of Orbx has posted another preview video from FTX Global - this time, flying over Phoenix, Arizona. What I'm really starting to notice is the increased levels of autogen density. Quite nice assuming I can keep my frames high. Video link and description inside.

See the applicable preview thread for the latest Orbx FTX Global video - click here

John's description of the video as posted in the preview thread:
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"Another iPhone5 iMovie quick and dirty video production. Direct grabs over Phoenix AZ with autogen slider set to Extremely Dense. Using FRAPS to show frame counter only."
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Visit the developers website - click here

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thats not a scenery worth paying for.

Camera phone videos always look better aswell, so this must be even more average on screen. Bad performance too over bland scenery.

Orbx seem to have lost it.


Music was godawful too.

Anonymous said...

He's getting 30 fps flying the ultralight. I wonder what he would get using the NGX.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he has his frames locked externally?

Anonymous said...

Looks like someone left the heavenly sprinklers on for a few weeks LOL.

Phoenix isn't green like this, what are they thinking???

Anonymous said...

Hahaha....is that as good as it gets Orbx, a video with an aerial trike, an aircraft nobody EVER uses?

Anonymous said...

With this video Orbx have reached a new low, wow, that's just awful!

Weston Hall said...

Your right if you had flightbeam kphx their would be a huge difference between colors

Anonymous said...

Everyone, ask yourselves this question. Is it better than default FSX? The answer is yes! A lot better! FTX Global is not supposed to be a complete remake of the entire planet. From what I understand, FTX Global is more of an enhancement.

I think it looks great, but, like most, I am concerned about the performance hit, the file size, and how long it will take to download this sucker.

Anonymous said...

I've tried explaining that a hundred times to no avail. Some simply are too thick to get it.

Anonymous said...

If you understand the fsx scenery hierarchy then you know what to expect from this product. The problem is many people just don't read what's out there and other choose to ignore the obvious...

Anonymous said...

Orbx is ALWAYS right & number ONE.
You will buy it & kneel before the mighty Venema & his fine leadership.

Anonymous said...

Not bad if you like autogen. Colors are not realistic for Phoenix and textures seemed way too dark? I'll take Mega Scenery Arizona over this, despite its lack of autogen.

Anonymous said...

Then take Mega Scenery Arizona. FTX Global is not made specifically for Arizona or any other single region and never will be intended for that purpose. FTX Global is not intended to replace or enhance any other scenery addon, it's intended to enhance default FSX and default FSX ONLY! Of course the product is going to have it's shortcomings, and many are expecting WAY too much out of FTX Global.

It never will make every area look exactly like the area you are flying over, but FSX default never provided that either. I would rather have this than default FSX covering globe where other addons do not cover. That's the purpose of this addon. IT IS NOT AN FTX REGION! Australia, New Zealand, and Britain are specific products intended to make that respective region in FSX look like it's namesake to the best of ORBX's abilities within the limits of FSX Landclass. FTX Global is NOT A REGION! It is not intended to have the same effect! It is intended to make the other 99% of the globe that is not covered by existing or future addons look better than DEFAULT! It is silly to think you are going to get global FTX Region-quality and care, that is an undertaking far too massive for one group to hope to accomplish, and there is a reason why 99% of the FSX global landmass is still default. THINK PEOPLE! THINK!

No one ever said, "Orbx is ALWAYS right & number ONE." I'm saying read my above paragraph, then go read the product description and realize that the community has been far too harsh and expecting way too much out of this product. People have been way too nitpicky, IMO, over the previews of specific regions, expecting FTX Region quality. That is simply an unrealistic expectation given the shear size of Planet Earth.

Anonymous said...

Well said

Anonymous said...

Fair comments, although you could argue that Orbx has also been hyping the product up to be more than it is too... at least in the beginning. They could help their cause by showing the product with everything else default. not with FS Genesis mesh or any other addons. Just a straight FSX install. Its mis-representing the product, and hence why the end customer is probably also thinking the product is more than it actually is too. You can't blame people for not thinking and having over-expectations of a product when they are showing Global with other addons. Have to think about it that way too.

Anonymous said...

So this is where the ORBX haters hang out.

Anonymous said...

True, and the using of FS Genesis mesh is a misrepresentation of what most users, at least users who do not have FS Genesis, will experience. I've actually agreed with the people who have presented that point since they started previewing with FS Genesis mesh.

The people who have been too harsh are the people going on about autogen, colors not being accurate for a specific region, etc. I've got a newsflash for those people, FSX default does provide a proper representation either of autogen or colors, or even somewhat accurate landclass, post SP2 we are still looking at the Great Global Desert that plagues 80% of the globe in default FSX.

Again, the product will have it's shortcomings, that's beyond doubt or reason, but it's not intended to compete with products that do represent certain regions like the FTX Regions, Mega Scenery, etc. FTX Global is designed to enhance those areas where other addons do not reach so that at least the world beyond those addons you are looking at is a better one than FSX default was going to give you anyways.

I would also like to point out that I believe I've seen it said more than once by ORBX themselves, that there is the possibility of expansions, updates, etc that are more region-specific. But they've got to start somewhere and get a product out before they can concentrate on narrowing their focus.

Anonymous said...

Find me a quote where the product was advertised as more than a replacement for default autogen and textures. Find me one and I'll eat my words.

Until then I believe it's a case of people who cannot understand what is written before the.

Anonymous said...

Agree... Clearly there are limitations with this type of package because of FSX limitations. Those arguing about those features should stop and think. But the FS Genesis and other addons being shown in their screenshots is a problem, and customers have a right to see the product as it should be with a plain vanilla FSX install. Its a misrepresentation of the product, and not something that should be encouraged. Imagine if all the developers started doing this! You wouldn't know what to believe. Everyone would be in a state of mass confusion!

Anonymous said...

Yeah because they got banned from the forums as talking trash on the products over there isn't allowed

Anonymous said...

Is that you, bitter AVSIM crowd?

Anonymous said...

There is a difference between constructive criticism and simply talking trash. If people were talking trash that was not true, and got banned from their forums because of it, then so be it. But if it was constructive criticism or they got banned for highlighting a fault in a product that was indeed a fault, that is a different story. I think there were cases for both on the Orbx forum in the past. Where to draw the line? At least sites like ADX allow a bit of free thought, in both direction, without harsh or unfair moderation.

John Venema said...

Couple of points if I may?

If you scroll up to our advert in the top-right of this page you will see our claim from day one has been "imagine having Orbx FTX textures covering your whole world as you fly". We have never professed to offer anything more than textures, autogen, lighting and maybe some LC improvements in the initial release. So as some people here are trying to tell you, see the product for what it is; a texture replacement, not a miracle or revolution for FSX.

Secondly since 2008 in every single screenshot or video I have made for Orbx I have used ENBSeries and in 90% of cases I fly the trike. Please go back and review my promo shots if you have doubts about that. I use the trike because it's the baseline aircraft which most developers use to work on scenery and airports and gives the maximum visibility out of the aircraft. (We're showing you our textures, not the aircraft). The YouTube video clearly contains a full disclosure of my PC specs, addons used, down to the weather themes etc. Not sure why that is being deemed to be misleading in any way? In the same way almost every developer promo or preview screenshot in the industry uses some form of filter, be it ENB, Shade, SweetFX etc. I have always restricted our staff to only using ENB and nothing else.

I don't care too much about the Orbx haters; the same repetitive stuff seems to surface each time and we know who many of these people are and frankly could care less. We always promote and sell our products on their own merit and we are one of the leading vendors in the industry for good reason - our products are high quality, work as advertised, are well supported and do what they say on the box. This means we sell LOTS of copies of our software and 99.9% of our customers never visit forums, post dribble on blog site or conduct vendettas. It's the 0.1% of the most unbalanced and painful people in the FS community that create 99% of the support work and headaches. Every developer will agree with me on that last point.

That said, to satisfy those people who seem to fly without any addons, ENB, mesh, scenery addons, airports, i.e. "vanilla FSX" (which we believe almost no-one does), I'll make a before/after video showing what FTX Global does, since it is patently clear the penny has not dropped for a vocal minority.

FTX Global will be the best selling product Orbx has ever made, make no mistake about that. This is what scares some people who have had this market segment to themselves for so long they have to resort to trolling and vendor bashing. Time to suck it up and compete in the free market gents; reality time.

Anonymous said...

Riding in on ya high horse and bad mouthing the "don't-agree-with-ya" crowd, Johnny? Fair point all around, but the 0.1% crowd do have opinions that over time may make or break a product so don't get too comfy with ya snooty remark.

Anonymous said...

Well said John, and regardless about what that 0.1% minority says, I think the product looks great and intend to be a day 1 customer!

Anonymous said...

John there are a good few users here and many have very valid points. I don't appreciate you dismissing this!

Just look at your Preview and Screenshot forums, it's the same crowd posting stuff and the same "ohhh that looks sooo good" crowd commenting in those threads. Very little constructive criticism goes on there, and from what I've read, you just ban people when the do give their 2 cents.

So AirDailyX is one of the few forums true FS hobbyists have to voice their opinions, and it seems clear that you intend to just ignore good solid criticism, as you will sell LOTS anyway...

Todd said...

It would have been nice to hear that constructive criticism is welcomed. I think we can all spot a troll. Much the same tone when EU was released. I'm curious how Wales did...

Anonymous said...

Well said John

Anonymous said...

Huh? are you jealous or something? did you posts a picture and not get a nice comment once

Pissed my pant reading your comment, really get a grip and grow up son

Anonymous said...

Please do not buy it, its not for YOU, or perhaps you will just find something to bellyache about LOL

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