FSX/P3D. Well, Flightbeam Studios has disclosed the airports currently on their shortlist following the release of Washington Dulles (KIAD)! As of now, both Denver (KDEN) and Newark (KEWR) are on the list. However, the developer is open to more suggestions. Personally, I say Denver assuming they are going for a major large scale airport. What do you think? Now if only someone would tackle Orange County (KSNA). See the official statement inside.
The official statement as posted on the developers Facebook page:
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Some important decisions to be made after our KIAD release. Our roadmap is completely open, and we need a whopping big airport that is highly requested.
KDEN, and KEWR are both officially on our short list. A few more to be added depending on what customers want.
We're open to any suggestions at the moment...
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See the developers Facebook page - click here
70 comments:
I agree with SNA!!! Dont need KEWR as Drzewiecki Design is already on it. So Denver I say!
OMG Denver, that's a nobrainer!!!! FSX has no large airport currently available between Las Vegas and Chicago and Denver is sorely missing ;-)
Imaginesim has already done KDEN, Drzewiecki is developing KEWR, they're doing a 'secret project', maybe an airport abroad like Taipei RCTP or Guangzhou ZGGG?
Salt Lake City or Denver!
Portland.
Tokyo Narita
KBUR
I would say Port Columbus Airport (KCMH), but FlightBeam knows which one is better for them.
why not so something outside America like Beijing
Houston has been crying out to be done well.
Portland or Denver please ;-)
Amsterdam Schiphol!
Cyyz is still up for grabs.
YES!
Should focus on non american airports. What about Asia?
Minneapolis would make me happy!
Denver is also apriciated!
These threads make me laugh...
You ask 1000 people, chances are you will get 1000 different answers... do my home airport is the common one...
:)
AE
Salt Lake City. No one has taken a stab at this
Bangkok Intl VTBS or Seattle Tacoma KSEA
I still wish for a high quality Bangkok, not too sure about the one due for release....looks good in areas and poor in others....it's like Flightbeams KIAD against Imaginesims version. Just because one has been done doesn't mean it can't be done again....
KDAL (Dallas Love Field) would be nice. Denver is fine as well.
Isn't KIAH in the works at FSDT?
If it must be a US-airport, my suggestions would be:
KSEA, KPDX, KATL, KBFI, KIAH (maybe a future project by FSDT)
Personally i'd prefer a non US-project like RJTT, RJAA, FACT
Since I live in the Denver area, Denver is a no brainer for me.
That being said, there are a number of notable holes in airport coverage in the western U.S. For example, no one has tackled Salt Lake City, which is actually a fairly significant hub. Seattle has been ignored, even though it is the home base for Alaska Airlines. Spokane International has not been done, even though it is a gateway to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. Neither has Oakland, Sacramento or a number of the major airports around LA, all of which are pretty significant.
Some of us might actually want to see a higher quality Houston, rather than the low quality Blue Print model. Especially since Houston is a major hub for United Airlines, the gateway to its Carribean and Latin American routes. It would seem like a no brainer.
As has been mentioned, Port Columbus would seem to be a major airport, with connections to many U.S. cities.
I'd say Calgary or Edmonton!
Moncton !
KSLC, KDEN, KMSP, and KDCA on my list for the US. For non-US I'd like to see RJAA, RJTT, LIMC, or UUEE.
We do not need KDEN for the same reason we do/did not need KIAD -> ImagineSim has done both of them, well enough.
There are still too many large international airports that need to be done, and all FlightBeam does is redo what ImagineSim has already done. What a waste of manhours.
LOL yes, almost always "my home airport" ;-)
Amsterdam Schipol is a good call too...the Aerosoft Simwimgs one is good in areas but lacks depth in areas outside the main airport/ Roads, fences, trees, bridges...its not that good when you look at it closer
A flightbeam version of EHAM could be interesting and it is a VERY BIG airport
SEA, PDX or MSP!
Well if FTX Global is going to do a good job at portraying South Africa, then I would suggest Cape Town International (FACT) and Lanseria (FALA). Lanseria happens to be Africa's busiest airport in terms of aircraft movement per day!
Drzewiecki design is doing a lite version of KEWR. I'm OK with either KEWR or KDEN.
Wing Creations,a developer from Japan, is doing Tokyo Narita.
Yes, FSDT is doing KIAH.
Imaginesim KIAD, while nice, is old and outdated. Some taxiway changes have been made since its release, so an update is in order.
If it had to be a U.S. airport again I would have say KDEN, however,I strongly agree with all these guys asking for an airport outside the U.S. (particularly in Asia) for a change (before revisiting the U.S. of course)and to expand Flightbeam's horizons so that it wouldn't be typecast as a U.S. airports only product and achieve global coverage, much as FlyTampa has done. Few would disagree with their achievements in my humble opinion and many were impressed and jumped on their Dubai product, for instance, which in my opinion once again was a masterpiece. Flightbeam, in that same opinion of mine is at least on par in quality and real-world styling and could really contend wonderfully in the same market. The great hubs and mega-hubs of Asia would be the ideal starting point and are crying out to be snapped up by one of the great quality airport developers and Flightbeam would be my first choice in snapping one of these up on release date.
Quality airport's in this area are indeed lacking in the fsx/p3d world and this is a beautiful region where aviation is expanding so rapidly as are the number of simmers in this region alongside those of us from outside this region who would love some long-haul flights in the upcoming PMDG 777, for example.
My first choice by far would be a QUALITY Singapore Changi Airport(WSSS)in Flightbeam magic. The airport is voted 'World's best airport' by Skytrax 2013 (even has its own swimming pool, hotel, butterfly garden, Koi pond, monorail and countless other gorgeous features, Asia's biggest hub (interchanges with Hong Kong. It would allow for so many interesting flights and connections. A major economic centre. Home to the World's best economy class airline (Singapore airlines - Skytrax 2012...what an experience, and the hostesses, well if you've flown them you'll know what I mean. The airport alone in Flightbeam, would be a truly amazing perfect counter to Fly Tampa's Dubai scenery, but of course, if Mir wanted a challenge, to do some of this amazing city would really be the icing on the cake and be a real winner, no doubt about it. It would be more then viable from a business point-of-vue. FlyTampa's Dubai was a real success and unmatched outside the U.S. in my opinion.
The other point I would make is, I feel Flightbeam appears to like the challenge of going from strength to strength and doing something even greater with each subsequent release, demonstrating some uniqueness and new capabilities. This would make the ideal next step-up so to speak. I know some are keen for another U.S airport and after a change, I would include myself amongst them, but many would also like to see Flightbeam blossom into a global contender with global scenery aspirations because they truly have the ability to do this very successfully indeed, and we could see some really beautiful variety of locations to conduct international long-haul flights. I know many of us are pilots who would like to fly and see the diversity of this amazing world.
Other Asia options would be Bangkok, Beijing, Shanghai, New Delhi, Kuala Lumpur, Tokyo Narita or Haneda etc. (Flightbeam-style and quality I mean).
In case anyone's thinking it, I'm not from this region but love to visit it... it is truly beautiful from the air, ground or sea and I would love new exotic international long-haul destinations for upcoming 777 flights from Europe, the U.S and Oceania as well as pan-Asian flights. The ideal airports for this would be real-world hubs like Singapore.
Thank you all very much for bearing with me and my more-than-2 cents worth. Its been on my wish-list for so long and my apologies to those of you who might not care for my opinion or an airport outside the U.S.
Could you please confirm that they create a detailed version of the New York area airports?
I read somewhere that they just do a lite version like KMIA...
Calgary or Edmonton +2
I wrote a very similar message on the Flightbeam forums for Asia projects funny enough! I totally agree
Enough of the USA lets broaden the spectrum
Aerosoft EHAM was is made by Simwings (unfortunately), but by FS Dream Factory, the same that made Brussels and is now working Rome.
But... fully agree, being a Dutchman, I would pay big money for an Amsterdam Schiphol in Flightbeam style!!
yuppp
yes it is
KMSP would be awesome
a lot of us already have home airports, so we are talking more of US hubs that would have tons of non-stop flights to almost anywhere. (in the US at least)
+1
+1 for MSP
Flightbeam, please keep your focus on North American airports (US and Canada)! There are so many US/Canada airports that need quality 3rd party addons.
Please remember Umberto's (FSDT) comments a few weeks ago, "Because US sceneries sells many (really, many) times more...The true reality is that 80% of users are in the US, and the remaining 20% is split between Germany, UK, France and Canada."
Why always the large class B airports? Flightbeam if you're listening....I'm probably just fanning the flames, but we need more GA airfields - heavyhitters like KADS, KSDL, KVNY, KAPA, to name a few. ORBX seems to have charged down this path already however lately with a focus on smaller airfields than the likes of those listed above....needless to say that this is a major gaping hole in FSX/FS9/P3D airport development.
I have no idea about the amount of time spent on R&D for pursuing an airport project for the Flightsim platforms, but it seems as though the man-hours going into one LARGE international class B airport could be used to develop perhaps two or three of the example GA airports listed above. I think the TheAirportGuys have a good development mix/roadmap (albeit a smaller portfolio) with KEZM (released) and KBWI (development).
Think about it, if FlightBeam or FlyTampa cranked on a couple of the major GA airfields in the US......OMG......killer!!!!!....and I'm sure other developers like Carenado, etc. would see an uptick in demand for their wares as it would drive users/consumers to want to pair likely aircraft types for flights to/fro these types of airfields. Just sayin'
Moncton + 222222
I'd definately second that. ;)
Moncton, a whopping big airport.....
;)
If they stick to the US, KMSP is the only large US airports that has never been done.
However, as I said before, we do need other much more important large international airports that have never been done before especially in Asia and Russia - and Africa and Middle-East - (in random order - including but not limited to):
- ZBAA
- UUDD
- ULLI
- UBBB
- HECA
- OJAI
- UAAA
- DGAA
- FQMA
- FYWH
- DNMM
- UIII
- UEEE
- OEJN
- FACT
- FAOR
- HSSS
- RCTP
- UTTT
- HTDA
- UKCC
- OMAA
- VVNB
- FLLS
- FVHA
screw europe.
only US airports.
hey guys,
please tell FB to do KEWR... KDEN is such a boring airfield.
I'm with you, EWR would be nice. It has not been done in a long long time and I have concerns with the D-Design NY project - is just too big and may result in OOM's. With FB's techniques I think the performance will be excellent despite the several thousands of polygons in the NY area.
I would also welcome SEA and PDX.
Just want to note that we're reading all suggestions, on Facebook, AirdailyX and on our forums. Thanks for everyone's input so far!
Mir
Flightbeam Studios
Moncton for me too !
Mir,
With all of the suggestions you have received so far, have you added any additional airports to your short list?
So EWR, DEN, ..., ..., and ...?
I'm just curious if any of our suggestions have intrigued you.
Can't wait for IAD!
Moncton already has been done: http://www.simaddons.com/pages/simaddons_addons.htm#AA1
The reason to do U.S. airports is because the U.S. is huge; Colorado is as large as the U.K. It has a lot of people. Air travel is a prefered method of getting around because passenger rail service is almost non-existant outstide of the northeast corridor from Washington to Boston. Driving across the country is expensive and time consuming. Americans tend to fly a lot.
Consider, Denver International Airport is the second largest airport in the world in terms of area. It is the fifth busiest airport in the world by plane movements and the eleventh busiest airport in the world by passenger traffic.
It is the largest hub for Frontier Airlines and the fourth largest hub for United Airlines. It is Southwest Airlines fastest growing market and fifth largest city.
It has a unique architectural design which reflects both the Rocky Mountains and Denver's Indian heritage.
Numerous airlines serve Denver and there are flights to just about every major American city, and quite a few minor ones as well. BA has a direct flight to Heathrow, Lufthansa to Frankrut, and United is starting a direct flight, using 787s to Tokyo.
It would be hard to go wrong doing DIA.
MSP! No one has attempted a high-quality version (no offense, BluePrint fans) since FS2002 when SimFlyers announced one, but they folded before it was finished.
In terms of land area, MSP is similar to SFO and PHX and as a proud owner of both, you've done a great job. It would be great to see MSP get the Flightbeam treatment.
There's a few that have caught my eye, but will be difficult to make into the shortlist, such as KPDX. Great airport, but severely lacks heavy traffic which stunts sales. It's very difficult to survive this industry to work on a long project which doesn't sell well. I'm definitely looking closely into international airports as well.
I completely understand lack of coverage for smaller airports, I agree with that. However we specialize in producing large class B airports with high efficiency and that is what we'd like to stick to *for now*, the FS market is VERY international. Our sales reports prove that, so to make a regional airport that many folks don't know well is not a great idea for us as we're just starting out.
Mir
Flightbeam Studios
Newark is an airport that deserves much more than a lite version of Drzewiecki Design.
The location as such is very interesting. You have the highway and the docks in vicinity and always get a good view of Manhattan.
From a scenic point of view it is very similar to San Diego.
I suggested it several times in the Flytampa forums. They denied doing it. Now Latin VFR did it and it sold so well that it still reappears in the simmarket charts now. Just forget Denver right now go for New York/New Yersey.
Sadly I don't think Seattle Tacoma (KSEA) would/could be done. FlyTampa has already looked into it, and passed on it - and thus for good reasons... The area is simply to heavy on FPS already...
Denver or Newark? Well... I would hope for Newark - but I would be happy with either... Another interesting airport mentioned in here, was Atlanta (KATL). FlightBeam would really do well there... ;)
All will be done with high end detail. Consider this the confirmation you are looking for.
I'd like a decent CYVR. FSDT's absolutely tanks my system & looks like crap with the lower res textures.
What about Orlando (MCO)? Toronto (YYZ) would be nice as well.
FlyTampax are doing Toronto.
Has that been confirmed or is it speculation because of the mysterious red dot on their map?
I wish that there was a better KSNA airport out there. I live right by that airport and go plane spotting all the time over there. Love to fly out of it as well in the sim doing the crazy NAP on departure.
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