FSX/P3D. Orbx has posted some comparative screenshots illustrating the difference between FTX Global and default FSX. Take a look inside, what do you think?
Comparison No.1:
Comparison No.2:
Comparison No.3:
Even more comparisons over at the Orbx forums - click here for the thread
29 comments:
Not much in it for me. Comp 1 looks the same, just different colors.
Look closer mate. There is a huge difference.
Nope, not much of a difference from my screen. They just colored the scenes more greener and then add ENB series to make it look exceptional. Nothing profoundly exciting or new except marketing hype, really.
Maybe this link would be interesting for you, sir..... ;-)
http://www.lenscrafters.com/lc-us/savings/offers
But that's the entrie point... that the default textures look better. They certainly accomplished that! FTX Global is not supposed to change the water, landclass, roads and that kind of stuff. The difference is enormous! What I would need right now, though, is a comparison with GEX.
It looks like the out-of-place desert textures may be a thing of the past. This is certainly big.
You guys still dont get it! This is a texture-product, not (mainly) a landclass product! Things will still be exactly where they were in FSX - but they look 100x better and more appropriate to their real world counterpart! For landclass you have to buy products like UT etc or detailed airport sceneries...
Here's my question, why is this an addon scenery ftx orbx ect, ect. Why not just change out all the deafualts from FSX and stop asking such an exuberant price for it. Than if people want mountains ect to be 100% perfect than can add small updates. They ask way too much for what we'll get I believe in my heart.
If you buy all replacement textures from GEX the price is similar.
Exactly my point in the 4th post above. Orbx did not change anything that is regarded as exceptional. They simply changed the coloration of the default world scenery texture to make it look "new". There is nothing wrong with doing that, but if they or any of you think that is a huge leap in innovation and therefore bought the product at exorbitant price then you're simply doing your wallets a huge disservice. But, as they say, whatever rocks your boat (or plane).
Huge difference between the default and the ORBX product, surprised some can't tell much difference.
They will be adding vector data and some landclass in the subscription product that will be ever evolving.
If you were to buy all the GEX regions (which do the exact same thing btw) it would cost more than the base pack and about equivalent to the more advanced one that has land-class and POI updates. Seems to me that GEX is the one with the exuberant price tag.
does the same thing as GEX but cheaper WITH night lights. Who's prices are exorbitant now?
Once again I'll reply as I'd like the answer to this unequivalent answer. 100euro or close what ever. but for what. whats the expectation / guarantee that that mount sai nai is what ever height and orbx will deliver. The price is very high maybe they should start with a starter pack. Reason: wow High price and if I'm going to pay such a price you best be 100% exact on height of the mountainous regions. don't bloody guess.
I think you need to re-read the product description. Also they will have a starter pack (i believe around 95 USD, so less in euro).
You seem to be saying that all they did was colorize the default textures?? These are completely different textures that they have developed during the course of their work on the various regions, and also new textures as well. Huge leap in innovation, that remains to be seen. But it is a huge amount of work to do what they are doing.
I can clearly see the difference, I just don't see 100bux worth. Not by a long shot.
I put 100bux on this introduces a entire new dawn of OOMs :)
Mountain heights are determined my MESH (not FTX Global).
Location of things (roads, urban, rural, sea, river etc) is determined by landclass (not FTX Global).
Colours quality and variety are determined by textures (FTX Global).
There are add-ons for each of these three things, that are huge improvements to the default FSX features.
Their price though is something different and is totally subjective to each one's wallet/will to spend/perception of worth!
For me personally the price of FTX Global is too high, especially the whole package thing.
Having planes like the NGX or the VRS F-18 or utils like OPUS for far less money than the base pack is something that I do not understand. I don't think that the work hours required for these products are far less than the hours required for FTX Global.
A price about 20% lower would make it more appealing to my eyes, but that's only my perception of this product's worth.
Colorize, paint, call it what you want. The point is it is nothing new. Read what I am saying. What they are simply doing is altering the default world scenery textures to suit the regions. Nothing new about that. Sheessh.
No dummy, we aren't stupid and that is the whole point. We know what the differences are between colorization and mesh. Who's the dumb one now to spend money on the exact same world texures with diffrent colors? Just because it is made by orbx should not be reasoned enough to fall for it. Can't teach stupid, right?
I personally don't thing this makes product make a noticable difference for flight simulation aspect - it does not make VFR flying easier, it nos not make the mesh more realistic... just visual. This should not be sooooo expensive but come on, ORBX sells their GA airports for over 20 euros.
If you don't like it, don't by it....
Why spend so much time and anger on this? People are different, but you will never change your mind about this product, better leave it now, we got your point.
Have a god day...
But they aren't the exact same textures. They are not FSX textures recolored, that wouldn't even be legal to sell. I think you don't have a clue in the world what you're talking about
Hi your almost correct with your definition of LC, mesh and textures.
JV mentioned that they will include an LC-layer for streets, rivers, coasts etc. for the whole world. The data comes from OSM.
He also mentioned that they will include more different landclases/textures than the default fsx. So you will get more variety in the scenery and most important more suitable textures than with default.
Why spend so much time and anger on this?
Simply put Cost. Fix the price, or simply boast what it does. Why is this worth $95.00 dollars of hard earned dollars. We all whine so zip it. Just simply state why Orbx newest edition is worth $95.00 dollars please answer.
If you don't think it's good value for money then don't purchase it, simple as that.
GEX costs 2x as much for the same type of product as FTX Global, except they make you swap texture packs in and out and also make you purchase new packs like Carribbean to get USA upgrades - complete BS! really. And the fact is that GEX textures are crap compared to Orbx. So to be honest Orbx is a bargain if they deliver the whole world for 70 euros.
Stop #*&$% complaining about price and just compare like for like - Orbx will blow GEX out of the water with a single installation and then you have the option of subscribing to the Plus pack which gives you continual content upgrades for life. Sometimes people need to get a grip on reality and support the quality developers who give so much to our hobby.
Don't ask Orbx to "justify" their prices. Wait for the release, read the reviews, see the videos and screenshots and then make up your own mind. And for #&*$&#$* sake please don't steal it from a torrent because you think they are being greedy. Support them with your money and they will give you quality products, like they have done for 7 years now.
Honestly, some poeple need need chill out and back developers who spend time to give them a better sim. If I was Orbx I would tell you to F___ off and buy GEX or other SH__ products which don't even come close.
Orbx seems to be the only scenery developer who is coming close to meeting an overall solution and there seems to be so much negative CRAP from people who don't even spend two minutes to understand what it is they are developing for us.
To anyone who thinks this is not worth spending 100, 200, 300, 400 Euros on - wait for the next miracle solution to a whole new whole and guess what - it won't come. Not inside this decade anyway.
Seriously, you sound like some spoilt little torrent F___ leecher who needs to get a grip!!!!
@Orbx- thank you, thank you, thank you for finally listening to your customers and giving us a product that covers the whole world and for a bargain price!
Bring on FTx World - I cannot wait for release date!
For those who have not noticed the hints by JV: you wont be able to steal this product - it will need an internet connection and have DRM controls.
About freaking time! I will be happy to pay for this and also happy that ungrateful KIDS won't be able to steal it.
I wish more developers did as much for our hobby as Orbx does.
Stop the stupid complaining about price and support companies like Orbx who have done more for people who appreciate good scenery than any other developer in the past two decades.
Two things come to mind. Either you are Orbx marketing the product in advance with your rant, or you are a just a lame nitwit advancing Orbx's agenda against GEX developers. But one thing's for sure, you ain't selling me the product hype. Not one bit. ZIP. Yes, GEX is expensive if you buy the whole package relative to Orbx's global, but you have a choice as to what you buy per region, not globally. That way it is much cheaper and egornomic to my choice of region to fly. Get your facts correct, Mate!
This is a funny old thread to stumble across.. you lot certainly have your firmly held opinions!
But I think you are all missing one huge point.. AUTOGEN, why is no one mentioning what a massive improvement they've made with it..
http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/58804-ftx-global-new-textures-autogen-lighting-25-shots/
It's expensive.. yep true, so is a BMW... but some absolute dufus here was saying they 'just colorized the default textures', er wtf. Come on that's not a valid argument and you know it! If you don't then back to Flight Sim 2000 for you, you'll get 200fps you know!
With no fanboism at all I can honestly say it really is on another level, and don't forget they are hacking the autogen dll leading to much denser autogen at lower FPS.. I can run FTX England at full sliders 30fps and it's truly a new experience.. FTX Global isn't quite on that level but the WHOLE WORLD!
So.. to buy or not to buy.. hmm the fact I am on the fence means they have priced it pretty well whether I like it or not :)
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